{"id":492,"date":"2008-07-15T08:31:00","date_gmt":"2008-07-15T12:31:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/fleet-rumors\/"},"modified":"2014-05-21T23:52:15","modified_gmt":"2014-05-22T03:52:15","slug":"fleet-rumors","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/fleet-rumors\/","title":{"rendered":"Fleet rumors"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Seems there are a lot of fleet rumors going around.  So far, these all fall in the rumor department.  We just had a bid increasing the MD-11 staffing which is probably related to rumors of getting more MD-11&#8217;s.  One possible source I&#8217;ve heard is Varig Log, which makes good sense as they have the 2 P&amp;W powered sister ships to the two ex-Korean airplanes we already have.  Those would fit well in our fleet. <\/p>\n<p>Another potential source is Gemini, who is in Chapter 11.  Those airplanes (3 or 4 of them) are GE powered.  We have never operated GE powered MD-11&#8217;s and have, I believe, passed up airplanes in the past based on them having GE engines.  This would be a change in strategy as far as that goes.  Those airplanes may come with contracts and crews, too.  So far no &#8216;official&#8217; word on that but it could get exciting.<\/p>\n<p>And then, the rumors about more DC-10&#8217;s are flying, too (pardon the pun).  The sequence of events is convoluted.  ATA Holdings purchased 9 DC-10&#8217;s from Northwest.  Subsequently, ATA Holdings leased 3 of those DC-10&#8217;s to World Airways.  Shortly thereafter, ATA Holdings changed its name to Global Aero Logistics and bought World Air Holdings using money from Matlin Patterson (equity) and JP Morgan \/ Chase (debt).  I&#8217;ll spare the labor issues involved here because they add to the confusion and probably aren&#8217;t relevant anymore.  Sometime after, ATA filed for Chapter 11 and ceased operating.  By that time, ATA was operating 2 or 3 of their ex-NWA DC-10&#8217;s and World had begun operating ours.  We now have all three of ours online (the third one is out of the paint shop and expected to begin revenue service shortly).  <\/p>\n<p>With that backdrop, the rumors have varied but it sounds relatively certain that we&#8217;ll get at least three of the ex-ATA (ex-NWA) DC-10&#8217;s, and maybe all 5 or 6 of them (however many there are).  I just flew a trip to Marana, AZ where there are many parked airliners as well as a heavy maintenance facility.  There were 4 shiny painted up ATA DC-10&#8217;s there, which suggests to me that those may well all be flyable (after a &#8216;lil TLC).  <\/p>\n<p>I also saw, for the first time in person, our 747-400 in Marana (doing some maintenance).  I parked one of those three &#8216;new to us&#8217; DC-10&#8217;s right next to it.  The second airplane is going through conversion now (I think in Tel Aviv).  I keep hearing rumors of possibly one or two 747-400 passenger airplanes (likely for Sonair), but those rumors have been going around for a long time and are probably less likely to be true.  As far as I know, though, they are looking for more conversion candidates to expand the 747-400 freighter fleet. <\/p>\n<p>All that to say, if the rumors are true, hiring and expansion at World is going to keep going for at least a year or two to come.<\/p>\n<p>V-<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Seems there are a lot of fleet rumors going around. So far, these all fall in the rumor department. We just had a bid increasing the MD-11 staffing which is probably related to rumors of getting more MD-11&#8217;s. 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