{"id":1109,"date":"2015-07-31T20:57:56","date_gmt":"2015-08-01T00:57:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/?p=1109"},"modified":"2015-07-31T21:06:50","modified_gmt":"2015-08-01T01:06:50","slug":"lions-human-tragedy-and-proportionate-response","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/lions-human-tragedy-and-proportionate-response\/","title":{"rendered":"Lions, human tragedy, and proportionate response"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_1108\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/07\/IMG_0727.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1108\" class=\"wp-image-1108 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/07\/IMG_0727-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"Lion in the Masai Mara, Kenya, 5-6-2011, Photo by Varrin\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/07\/IMG_0727-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/07\/IMG_0727-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/07\/IMG_0727-200x150.jpg 200w, https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/07\/IMG_0727-150x113.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1108\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lion in the Masai Mara, Kenya, 5-6-2011, Photo by Varrin<\/p><\/div>\n<p>A few years back, I <a href=\"http:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/maasai-mara-safari\/\" target=\"_blank\">went on a safari<\/a> in Kenya. I snapped this nice lion picture while I was there. I like lions. I was sad to hear about a the apparently illegal (and maybe truly bad) poaching of a beloved lion, Cecil, earlier this month.<\/p>\n<p>But when the outraged response dominated my Facebook news feed, it struck me how much more important it appeared that one lion was poached than any number of human tragedies that could be occupying our attention. The one that first came to mind was abortion, but many more soon entered my mind.<\/p>\n<p>Some of these tragedies are controversial, including abortion. Coincidentally, there has been some attention paid to Planned Parenthood parting out aborted babies in exchange for money. I pondered writing something of my own about what seemed to me to be a disproportionate response, but when I saw this meme, I simply <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/varrin\/posts\/10153157066618687\" target=\"_blank\">reposted it<\/a>, saying, &#8220;This has been on my mind these last few days&#8221;:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1110\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/07\/lion-planned-parenthood.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1110\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1110\" src=\"http:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/07\/lion-planned-parenthood-300x166.png\" alt=\"Planned Parenthood \/ Lion Meme\" width=\"300\" height=\"166\" srcset=\"https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/07\/lion-planned-parenthood-300x166.png 300w, https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/07\/lion-planned-parenthood-250x138.png 250w, https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/07\/lion-planned-parenthood-150x83.png 150w, https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2015\/07\/lion-planned-parenthood.png 612w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1110\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Planned Parenthood \/ Lion Meme<\/p><\/div>\n<p>I should know better than to just fire off a meme like that. Thankfully, my friends are generally civil and are mostly already aware of my affinity for engaging, <a href=\"http:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/facebook-disagreements\/\" target=\"_blank\">respectful dialog<\/a> on Facebook. I received some good feedback, including some critiques that were entirely fair.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve read all the feedback and I&#8217;d like to thank everyone for the combination of civility <em>and<\/em> good feedback. Here are some hopefully more refined thoughts than were present with the original meme. I&#8217;ll start with three shortcomings of the meme itself, and then try to capture my own thoughts:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>The meme has obvious hyperbolic errors: the assertions that &#8220;no one cares&#8221; and &#8220;everybody loses their minds&#8221; are both untrue hyperbole. That&#8217;s obvious to me, but it&#8217;s worth pointing out that there has actually been a fair bit of attention given to the Planned Parenthood parting-out story. In fact, that story has received enough attention that Planned Parenthood has hired a PR firm to deal with the fallout. So the contrast is overstated even if the non-hyperbolic underlying observation has some basis in truth.<\/li>\n<li>The meme focuses on the parting-out story, not the underlying abortion story. Several people pointed that out and there&#8217;s a way in which they&#8217;re two different issues: the parting out story truly isn&#8217;t controversial if (and <em>only if<\/em>) abortion truly isn&#8217;t controversial. The controversy of the parting out story really does depend on the underlying abortion issue.<\/li>\n<li>The meme doesn&#8217;t mention any of the other high-magnitude human tragedies. I mentioned a couple of them in comments on the original meme thread. A more thorough (though maybe not complete) list might include things such as police brutality, mass murder (including motivated by race or religion, and influenced by mental health issues), military action (both U.S. and other), many other lower-profile human-caused human tragedies (various forms of slavery, economic warfare, etc.), not to mention non-human-caused human tragedy (disease, etc.). It&#8217;s biased to pick on only one human tragedy story, and each of those stories does receive <em>some<\/em> attention.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Having said all that, here&#8217;s a more clear description of what was on my mind.<\/p>\n<p>The attempted separation of the Planned Parenthood parting-out story from the abortion story is disingenuous. It is plain that consensual organ donation is (generally) not controversial, and the source of the organs in the Planned Parenthood case is exclusively (I think) aborted babies. While it&#8217;s true that organ donation shouldn&#8217;t be controversial, the reason it is in this case is because the story is the underlying abortion story. If I killed my children and took them to a Planned Parenthood clinic to part them out (covering their &#8216;costs&#8217;, of course), would the problem be the organ donation or the fact that I killed my children and then had the audacity to &#8216;recoup costs&#8217; by selling off their parts?<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, the response to the lion story has included substantial calls for violence against the dentist. If such calls are made against abortion doctors, pro-abortion advocates cry foul. They&#8217;re right to cry foul. I cry foul when people advocate violence against government employees or military personnel (despite the deaths some of them cause). But the same people who would cry foul with a feverish pitch about targeting abortion doctors are giving those advocating violence against the dentist a general ho-hum. In fact, according to my personal observations, even that is charitable. The only outrage I&#8217;ve personally seen over the calls for violence against the dentist came from the pro-life crowd (ironic, right?).<\/p>\n<p>When addressing the abortion issue directly, the response is typically that the fetus isn&#8217;t a person (comments in the meme thread provide examples, but they&#8217;re elsewhere also). The basis for such claims varies, but often relates to either viability or sentience. Neither claim passes muster in this context of disproportionate response. While late-term abortions are a small percentage of abortions in the U.S., thousands to possibly tens-of-thousands of viable fetuses are aborted every year. And no logically consistent application of criteria for sentience of humans and lions at various stages of development results in a sound argument. Adult humans are sentient in ways lions aren&#8217;t (ever), and human fetuses are sentient in many of the same ways Cecil was when he was poached. Outrage over the death of the lion but not the human fetus is not logical. (P.S. Lions often kill their <em>born<\/em> cubs, other adults, and even humans. I&#8217;d say &#8220;monkey wrench&#8221; but mixed metaphors and all&#8230;)<\/p>\n<p>If we admit that viability and\/or sentience are determining factors in the personhood of a fetus, then the magnitude of the abortion problem is only reduced to four or five orders of magnitude greater than that of the lion (by number of deaths). That&#8217;s enough for me to cry foul over the outrage over the lion. But doing so ignores this basic biological argument: from the moment of conception the fetus is a fully distinct human (it is not a non-human, and it is not its mother or a part thereof) and fully alive (it is not dead).<\/p>\n<p>If it were its mother (or a part thereof), or it weren&#8217;t alive, we wouldn&#8217;t be having this conversation about abortion *or* parting out of the aborted fetuses. Using such basic biological criteria causes the magnitude of the problem (again, numerically speaking) to jump from in the thousands (of viable and at least partly sentient fetuses) to ~a *million* babies a year (over 50 million since Roe v. Wade). That&#8217;s seven (annually) or eight (in ~four decades of legal abortion) orders of magnitude greater than the lion.<\/p>\n<p>Add to that hundreds (thousands?) of sometimes-fatal police brutality cases annually in the U.S. alone, racial and religions violence all over the world (including the U.S.), the death toll from war, and the 20th-century democide toll of around 1\/4 <em>billion<\/em> people. That&#8217;s right, governments in the 20th century killed 1\/4 billion people, and the outrage is focused on a lion.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m sad about Cecil the lion. I didn&#8217;t know him like the one I photographed above (he was injured but majestic none the less). But in light of the magnitude of the above-referenced human tragedies, it&#8217;s clear the response has been grossly disproportionate (not to mention numerically disproportional by five to 10 orders of magnitude, depending on what we&#8217;re counting).<\/p>\n<p>So my question is like some others are asking: why are we paying that much attention to a lion when the human tragedies are many orders of magnitude greater, not to mention more <em>human?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>V-<\/p>\n<p><em>edits: despite the deaths &#8220;some of them&#8221; cause<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A few years back, I went on a safari in Kenya. I snapped this nice lion picture while I was there. I like lions. I was sad to hear about a the apparently illegal (and maybe truly bad) poaching of a beloved lion, Cecil, earlier this month. 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