{"id":7,"date":"2013-12-28T17:43:29","date_gmt":"2013-12-28T17:43:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/aviation\/comair\/"},"modified":"2014-05-27T19:00:38","modified_gmt":"2014-05-27T23:00:38","slug":"comair","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/aviation\/comair\/","title":{"rendered":"Varrin&#8217;s Aviation Story &#8211; Comair Airlines"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: left\" align=\"center\">Note: This was written in 2003. I have left it as is. Comair ceased operations on September 29th, 2012.<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: left\" align=\"center\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2013\/12\/cmrlogo.gif\" alt=\"Comair\" width=\"150\" height=\"60\" \/><\/div>\n<p>I was officially hired at Comair in April of 1996 after successful completion of my EMB-120 Brasilia training.\u00a0 The training in the Brasilia was tougher than I expected.\u00a0 Looking back on it now, it was tougher than it really needed to be and I hear it&#8217;s much more &#8216;user friendly&#8217; now.\u00a0 Flying the Brasilia was much better than anything I had flown until that time. It features a flight attendant, an APU and an autopilot &#8211; the essentials for any airliner.\u00a0 Though there aren&#8217;t coffee makers onboard, they do have hot pots with coffee available.\u00a0 I&#8217;m not sure exactly how healthyit is, though.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2013\/12\/em2_cutout.gif\" alt=\"Brasilia\" width=\"350\" height=\"127\" align=\"left\" \/><br \/>\nBut you will need some coffee flying for a regional airline.\u00a0 The Brasilia&#8217;s full-passenger range is not very long.\u00a0 We did do some 2-hour trips, but we couldn&#8217;t carry a full load of people.\u00a0 Hence, the flying consisted of a lot of shorter legs, many under an hour.\u00a0 There were a few trips with 9 leg days, but the most I ever did in a day was 8. Most common was to do 5-7 legs a day for an average of around 5 hours of flying time each day.\u00a0 I started out on reserve (on-call) but started getting lines fairly quickly after being hired.\u00a0 Movement at Comair was fairly brisk the entire time I was there due to expansion.\u00a0 The pay wasn&#8217;t the greatest though.\u00a0 First year pay was about $14,000 and 2nd year pay as a Brasilia F\/O was about $23,000, if I recall correctly. The Brasilia is a turboprop and there&#8217;s really no comparison between that and a jet.\u00a0 There were some things I did like about it though.<\/p>\n<p>It was heavy on the controls but it was great to hand fly due to the fact that it was all cables, no augmentation (except for the rudder), and there was a strong feeling of connection to the airplane.\u00a0 It made great (though physical) crosswind landings.\u00a0 I also liked the giant trim wheel which could be used during hand flying to finesse pitch control.<\/p>\n<p>After a year and a half of flying the Brasilia, I finally took the plunge and bid to fly the Canadair Regional Jet.\u00a0 Flying the RJ meant a big step up in many ways.\u00a0 It had jet performance, higher pay, real coffee makers, longer legs, and a little more &#8216;status&#8217; than a turboprop.\u00a0 As for the schedules, there were some 6 and 7 leg days flying the RJ, but the average was less than in the Brasilia.\u00a0 I recall a particular 4-day trip that only had 10 legs in it (all at least 2 hours long).\u00a0 I would say the norm was more like 4 or 5 legs a day, and there were many more trips that were over 1 1\/2 hours, mainly because the range of the airplane is significantly longer.\u00a0 The coffee was better and the pay for a 3rd year F\/O was somewhere north of $30,000, still not fantastic but finally enough to live on.<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" src=\"http:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2013\/12\/JET100.jpg\" alt=\"My Dad in front of the 100th RJ\" width=\"569\" height=\"256\" align=\"right\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Flying the RJ was a lot of fun.\u00a0 It had 50 seats, the maximum allowed with just 1 flight attendant, so the crew was still somewhat &#8216;intimate&#8217; but it felt more like a real airline gig.\u00a0 The plane is fantastic too. I&#8217;ve seen the EMB-145 series (135\/140\/145, etc) and the Canadair is simply a much better airplane, though a bit more expensive to buy and operate. The training was significantly easier than Brasilia school.\u00a0 The airplane is all glass (EFIS, EICAS, FMS, etc.) and, once you learn the color logic, the whole airplane just makes sense.\u00a0 I was paired up with another First Officer and we did well through the entire program.\u00a0 My sim instructor for that training was fantastic and the simulator was much better quality than the Brasilia simulators are (and I&#8217;ve flown several different Brasilia simulators).<\/p>\n<p>I have all the admiration and respect in the world for the engineers that put that plane together.\u00a0 I really do miss flying on it and every time I ride on one I get a little jealous of the pilots.\u00a0 Though it doesn&#8217;t climb well up in the 20&#8217;s and higher, it is fairly fast, cruising at M.77 or sometimes faster (Mmo is .85 but there wasn&#8217;t enough thrust to get it going that fast in level flight).\u00a0 Though I didn&#8217;t feel quite as &#8216;connected&#8217; to it, it was enjoyable to hand fly once I got used to it.\u00a0Particularly nice was the brisk rate of roll.\u00a0 The automation is wonderful, though the basic design of the airplane is elegantly simple.\u00a0 From an automation standpoint, the only thing lacking is autothrottles, however, honestly, the airplane doesn&#8217;t need them.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2013\/12\/v-rj.jpg\" alt=\"Varrin in Nassau\" width=\"300\" height=\"450\" align=\"left\" \/><br \/>\nI flew the RJ for a couple of years as a First Officer before I decided it was time to upgrade.\u00a0 In mid-2000 I bid for a Captain position and went back to school again.\u00a0 Comair didn&#8217;t have (and I think still may not have) an upgrade program.\u00a0 So I went through initial school all over again.\u00a0 This time, my ground instructor didn&#8217;t know the airplane quite as well as before.\u00a0 Fortunately, the other upgrading Captain and I kept him honest and made sure the other new First Officers in the class got all the right information.\u00a0 The sim training was even more enjoyable, partly because I had a good First Officer to work with, and partly because I had done it before and could relax and just enjoy it.<\/p>\n<p>I wasn&#8217;t quite senior enough to hold a line as a Captain yet and wound up on reserve the rest of my time at Comair.\u00a0 That part was not so pleasant. At that time I had moved back to California and was commuting to work in Cincinnati.\u00a0 The commute wasn&#8217;t a terrible challenge like some were (particularly those that commuted from Florida), but it was fairly time consuming. The pay, even on reserve, was quite a bit better, though.\u00a0 I don&#8217;t recall exactly how it would have turned out for a whole year but it was somewhere around $50,000 per year, low for Captain on a jet, but livable if you have a reasonable lifestyle.\u00a0 The down side was only having 10 days per month off and spending 3 or 4 of them commuting back and forth to California.<\/p>\n<p>The real problems that led to my departure from Comair started much earlier. Our contract was amendable in June of 1998 and we began negotiations for a new contract.\u00a0 At the time, I had some expectations based on the idea that it wouldn&#8217;t take to long to negotiate a new contract.\u00a0 Unfortunately, it took 3 years.\u00a0 Shortly before negotiation time (a few months, maybe a year), a new flight operations management team was hired.\u00a0 It consisted of 3 people in particular who would wind up on the negotiating committee for management that had worked for Frank Lorenzo at Eastern and\/or Continental. It turns out they learned from industry leader at how to destroy a good thing. After over 2 years of negotiation, little progress had been made on the important issues.\u00a0 By that time, the nature of the industry had changed as had the expectations of the pilot group.<\/p>\n<p>In the mean time, several other things happened that began to make working for Comair less enjoyable.\u00a0 One of the biggest ones was getting sued. During the course of our negotiations, the mechanics were also in contract negotiations.\u00a0 Late in 1999, they voted down a contract and a significant number of experienced mechanics left the company to work elsewhere. This dramatically affected the quality of maintenance at Comair.\u00a0 Around the same time, many of the Comair pilots became so frustrated with the pace of our own negotiations that we really quit going out of our way to keep things moving.\u00a0 As a result of these two things, the number of mechanical problems with the airplanes increased dramatically and our on-time performance decreased dramatically.\u00a0 Management proceeded to accuse us of an illegal job action and filed a lawsuit against the pilots.\u00a0 In the end, the suit for damages was thrown out by the judge, though he issued an injunction prohibiting the pilots from making &#8220;improper maintenance writeups&#8221;.\u00a0 Needless to say, the tone of things had changed for the worse.<\/p>\n<p>All along, there had been an agreement between the pilot and management negotiators to keep the negotiations at the table and not discuss specific contract proposals outside of the negotiating sessions.\u00a0 In late 2000 that &#8216;silence&#8217; got broken.\u00a0 Even prior to that, I was beginning to wonder if we would get enough out of the negoatiations to make it worth it for me to stay there.\u00a0 Keep in mind, we weren&#8217;t asking to break the bank and we were negotiating with a regional airline that was netting over $160M a year as of the last numbers reported (Comair was bought by Delta during contract negotiations and, hence, quit reporting financial results).<br \/>\nIn November of 2000 the union leadership held a meeting to lay out for the pilot group the specifics of what was happening at the negotiating table. This was in response to management pulling pilots aside and talking privately with them about specific proposals.\u00a0 After hearing what was said at that meeting, several things became apparent.\u00a0 First, my hunch that things weren&#8217;t going to be as good as I had hoped for was correct.\u00a0 Our negotiators were asking for what was, at that time, my bottom line.\u00a0 Management was still, of course, asking for consessions.\u00a0 They were a world apart and they certainly would have to meet somewhere between the two, well below my bottom line.\u00a0 Furthermore, it appeared to me like it was more likely that we would not get the amount of retroactive pay I was expecting and that we might actually have to strike to get anything we wanted. That evening I went back to my crash pad (formerly my home), called my wife and told her I was looking for a new job.\u00a0 Within a few weeks, I was hired at World Airways and delivered my 2-week notice to Comair in December of 2000.\u00a0 My last trip was shortly before New Years, though I was officially employed a few days into January.<\/p>\n<p>The Comair story doesn&#8217;t end there, though.\u00a0 After I left, negotiations continued to go poorly until March when the parties were released to a 30-day cooling off period.\u00a0 Not only was there a strike, but it was long. 89 days and 3 offers later, the pilots went back to work with an agreement that, indeed, I would not have been happy with.\u00a0 It was, to me, a tragic sequence of events that put a black mark on the history of one of the greatest regional airlines ever to fly.<\/p>\n<p>Having been through all of that gave me a different perspective on the regional airlines.\u00a0 Comair was, to some, the envy of the regional airline industry.\u00a0 We made lots of money, had lots of shiny new jets (more than anyone else in the world), and flew to lots of places.\u00a0 But those things don&#8217;t necessarily make for happy employees.\u00a0 In the latter part of my time there, I rode on SkyWest very regularly and got to talk to the pilots there.\u00a0 In fact, we even had at least one pilot (that I can recall) who left Comair to go to work for SkyWest.\u00a0 As a result of my exposure to Comair, SkyWest, and several other regional airlines, I&#8217;ve come to the conclusion that SkyWest may well be the best regional airline in the country to work for.\u00a0 They always had at least as good of a deal as Comair did (from a pay and benefits standpoint) and were treated with respect, all without a union.\u00a0 I think had I gone to work there, I&#8217;d probably still be there.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Varrin\u2019s Aviation Story Intro\" href=\"http:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/aviation\/intro\/\">Intro<\/a> &#8211; Document history, purpose, and introduction<br \/>\n<a title=\"Varrin\u2019s Aviation Story History\" href=\"http:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/aviation\/history\/\">History<\/a> &#8211; How I got started &#8211; the story before the story<br \/>\n<a title=\"Varrin\u2019s Aviation Story \u2013 Comair Aviation Academy\" href=\"http:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/aviation\/caa\/\">Comair Aviation Academy<\/a> &#8211; Details about my time as a student and instructor at Comair Aviation Academy, now Delta Connection Academy<br \/>\n<a title=\"Varrin\u2019s Aviation Story \u2013 Comair Airlines\" href=\"http:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/aviation\/comair\/\">Comair Airlines<\/a> &#8211; Information about flying for Comair Airlines<br \/>\n<a title=\"Varrin\u2019s Aviation Story \u2013 World Airways\" href=\"http:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/aviation\/world\/\">World Airways<\/a> &#8211; Information about flying for World Airways (Updated May 27th, 2014)<br \/>\n<a title=\"Varrin\u2019s Aviation Story \u2013 Nippon Cargo Airlines\" href=\"http:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/aviation\/nca\/\">Nippon Cargo Airlines<\/a> &#8211; Information about flying for Nippon Cargo Airlines<br \/>\n<a title=\"Varrin\u2019s Aviation Story \u2013 Conclusion\" href=\"http:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/aviation\/theend\/\">Conclusion<\/a> &#8211; A wrap up of the whole story<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Varrin&#8217;s Aviation Story &#8211; Comair Airlines <a class=\"continue-reading-link\" href=\"https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/aviation\/comair\/\"> Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr; <\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"parent":4,"menu_order":4,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","template":"","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-7","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Varrin&#039;s Aviation Story - Comair Airlines - Varrin&#039;s World<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/aviation\/comair\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Varrin&#039;s Aviation Story - Comair Airlines - Varrin&#039;s World\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Varrin&#039;s Aviation Story - Comair Airlines Continue reading &rarr;\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/aviation\/comair\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Varrin&#039;s World\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:publisher\" content=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/varrin\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2014-05-27T23:00:38+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"http:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2013\/12\/cmrlogo.gif\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"10 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/aviation\/comair\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/aviation\/comair\/\",\"name\":\"Varrin's Aviation Story - Comair Airlines - Varrin&#039;s World\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/#website\"},\"primaryImageOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/aviation\/comair\/#primaryimage\"},\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/aviation\/comair\/#primaryimage\"},\"thumbnailUrl\":\"http:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2013\/12\/cmrlogo.gif\",\"datePublished\":\"2013-12-28T17:43:29+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2014-05-27T23:00:38+00:00\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/aviation\/comair\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/aviation\/comair\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/aviation\/comair\/#primaryimage\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2013\/12\/cmrlogo.gif\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2013\/12\/cmrlogo.gif\",\"width\":150,\"height\":60},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/aviation\/comair\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Varrin&#8217;s Aviation Index\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/sugargroup.net\/varrin\/aviation\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":3,\"name\":\"Varrin&#8217;s Aviation Story &#8211; 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